I'll Just Let Myself In

From Retail to 1.9 Million Followers: Trey Bryant's Journey

Lish Speaks

Ever wonder what it takes to build a personal brand with millions of followers? Fashion influencer Trey Bryant pulls back the curtain on his journey from retail worker to social media powerhouse with 1.9 million TikTok followers and 1.2 million on Instagram.

This conversation goes far beyond fashion tips, diving into the psychological aspects of building influence. Trey shares a profound perspective on maintaining authenticity while scaling a personal brand, revealing how he navigates the pressure to constantly create viral content versus serving his core audience. "Fashion is my core," he explains, emphasizing the importance of knowing your strengths before diversifying your content.

What truly stands out is Bryant's candid discussion about the mental impact of going viral. He describes the dopamine rush of viral success followed by the inevitable pressure to replicate it, offering wisdom for creators struggling with consistency and purpose. Rather than chasing virality, he suggests focusing on "outlier" content that consistently performs above average to better understand what resonates with your audience.

The most touching moments come when Trey discusses the role of supportive partnerships in his success. His wife Joy serves as both his biggest cheerleader and honest critic, mirroring what he observed in his parents' 32-year marriage—teamwork that allows both individuals to flourish. This reflection opens up a broader conversation about praying specifically for what you want in life, with host Lish Speaks sharing how she manifested precise qualities in her husband through intentional prayer.

Whether you're an aspiring content creator, established influencer, or simply curious about the intersection of faith, fashion, and digital culture, this episode offers invaluable insights about staying grounded while building influence. As Trey says, "Be 1% better every day," a philosophy that's clearly taken him from retail floors to digital stardom.

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Speaker 1:

I think sometimes God knows that some of us need to be shown that we can do this quickly or else we'll move on. I don't know if you're like that. Like me, I need to be shown quickly that something good, because other than that, I feel like I'm wasting my time, like I'm like okay, well, god, well, what else do you have for me? Because this is I'm dragging, this is not working. You know, now, that is a patience thing I need need to work on but no, it's human.

Speaker 1:

It's human, it makes sense yeah, and so I feel like he shows people sometime relatively earlier, early on. That hey, this is working and you should keep going work harder you know what it's like.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know it's like. It's like the preview showing you that the movie is going to be good, like I promise, if you just you come to the movie, it's good. This is the previews Now. This is the previews I'm showing you Now. After that I'm gonna snatch it back and now we're not gonna come out till 2026, 2027, 2028. But you gotta be ready when the movie drops.

Speaker 1:

It's giving Game of Thrones.

Speaker 2:

It's coming out in two years.

Speaker 1:

So I'ma have a great day. Don't bring no drama my way. Don't bring no drama my way. Don't bring no drama my way. Yeah, i'ma have a great day. Don't bring no drama my way. Don't bring no drama my way. Don't bring no drama my way. What's up, everybody, it's your girl.

Speaker 1:

Lish Speaks, and welcome to another episode of my podcast. I'll Just Let Myself In. It's the podcast where we don't wait for an imaginary permission slip or some seat at an imaginary table. We walk through our God-given doors and we bring people on this podcast right who have made a way for themselves through their own talent. This doesn't mean they didn't rely on any faith or have any help, but it simply means they decided that they wouldn't wait and that they would walk through their doors.

Speaker 1:

And today's guest really needs no introduction, but I'm going to introduce him just so y'all know. Today we have an influencer which, for me, feels like that title is even just a little beneath you I'm going to be honest but a content creator, an influencer who really allows our brothers, our men, to see themselves through the lens of presenting better. He believes that when you look good, you feel good, and he shows people how to do that for their body types. Through his friends, through other content creators that he works with, he shows people how to take care of their hair, take care of their skin, and shows them how to love their families while doing it. Now, listen, this may sound like just a little something, you know, just a little cute thing that that that that people may look at, but I want to tell you, 1.2 million people are looking at it on Instagram, 1.9 million are looking at it on TikTok and well over half a million people are looking at it on YouTube. So my guest, trey Bryant, is doing something right. Trey, welcome to the couch.

Speaker 2:

That was just incredible. That was incredible. That may be like top two and not two.

Speaker 1:

Listen, I try, I try to give people, their flowers and their just do as they come on the couch. Today we're going to be talking about into influence and really kind of diving into some of the lessons you've learned on this journey, some of the things that make you you right and make you influential, because what I found about most influencers, myself included, is that we're normally influential people before we got in front of people right. We whether you were a class president in the fifth grade or all your friends just always cared what you thought about their outfits, like it's usually in you right, not on you, and so I want to talk about your journey. But before we do that, I have one of the best segments in podcasting. It's called what I'm stepping in, and it's where I share with my audience the sneakers that I have.

Speaker 1:

Y'all know, if y'all been here, I'm a sneakerhead. I love shoes, and so today I am stepping in a pair of Adidas Stan Smith. Now, this is a classic Adidas shoe. It's a classic Adidas silhouette all white with the green in the back. As you can see, I'm matching and it's just a classic shoe. I love this shoe. It has its high times. A couple of years maybe, like eight years ago, it was like the shoe of the summer. Now it's the Samba, but I always have a pair of classic Stan Smiths.

Speaker 1:

Some people if you're from New York, like me, some people like to get them dirty. It's the white sneaker that can be dirty. Me some people like to get them dirty. It's the white sneaker that can be dirty, because in new york you can't wear no dirty uptowns or air force ones, but you can wear a dirty stan smith. Mines, as you can see, are super clean because I don't play those games, but I'm stepping into stan smith today. You know what I always say if you like them, go get you some trey. Tell the people what you're stepping in I'm stepping in some leather loafers.

Speaker 2:

You know it may not be. You know as good as your Stan.

Speaker 1:

Smith. No, it's better, it goes with the flow.

Speaker 2:

I appreciate that. But yes, I have on some regular leather loafers. These are just a little place off the internet called Thursday Boots and they just kind of go with the fit. I just kept it really chill. It's the summertime, it's in the 90s outside, so I felt like it's best. I do not have on a long sock. I have on some no-show socks. Yes, teach the people you know, just to have a little ankle out, let it breathe. You know no big deal this guy is so fly man. I love it.

Speaker 1:

Listen, like we say here at the podcast, if you like them, go get you some. This is what we're stepping in, all right. So, trey, first of all, thank you so much for being here. I really am excited to talk with you because you are someone whose journey I got to see in real time. We were talking a little bit off camera that very few people actually personally know successful content creators and influencers, and so to see your rise in real time has been super dope, super cool. I'll share a story later about some advice that you gave me that you probably don't even remember, but how has it been? You know, growing and rising as an influencer right in front of everyone's eyes.

Speaker 2:

It's a. I think it's been. First of all, I want to say I'm grateful for everything you're saying and I'm grateful to even have like the relationship with you where you can see that and it's like it kind of feels like really comfortable, and for people like you where it's like I haven't seen you in a while but, like you know, because of the luxury of social media, we can continue to walk, watch each other and, like you said, check in um. So I really do, uh, I'm appreciative of that. But I think, as far far as how it's been, I think that right now it's great.

Speaker 2:

It's something that I'm grateful for every single day in my prayers, even the smallest things, because I worked in retail for a long time, even down to Saturdays, I've always just been. Every time that I'm not in the store on Saturdays, I'm just like man. I really used to be here every day. My time is really my own time now and I have the ability to do this. So that's just something I'm like in addition to what's going on very grateful for. As far as like with you know, family, friends, people who have been around for a long time, it's uh, it's always good to have those check-ins and be like bro. I just saw a friend this past weekend that he was like my first friend in college and you know we saw each other. He was in my wedding and he was just like man.

Speaker 2:

He was like bro, like your transformation is insane, and you know to hear that it means more coming from the people who know you have known you for 10, you know 12 plus years and you know for him to say that I think it is, uh, it, it feels good. It feels good, you know, and it keeps you grounded as well, too, Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Um, speaking about being grounded, did you always want to be famous or known, or did you kind of grow up like I don't really. I don't really want the spotlight? Were you popular as a kid? Tell me a little bit about your grounding.

Speaker 2:

Ooh, you getting into it. Now I will be honest and say that I wasn't a popular kid. I wasn't In Augusta. I think it's like your athletics is really more so things that are put to the top, like being good at a sport, and I think that that was like more so what I was trying to rise and do, like trying to play basketball, be good at it. You know, of course, people wanted me to play football, you know things of that nature, and so I wasn't as good as maybe other people. So sometimes I think that that has to do with your popularity. My personality, I think, is what still had people like gravitate towards me and you know, and have different relationships in school. As far as, like my career path, be wanting to be famous, you know I'm trying to get to a place in life where I'm trying to be more honest with myself in my thirties I love that that's a good place to be.

Speaker 2:

Just being more honest and just and just as you look back over the course of your life. I don't know if I would say I wanted to be famous, but I would say I did know that I wanted some type of degree of status. I did know I wanted status and then in school I was interested in like what I was. My dad always makes this joke and when he sees this he'll probably laugh. But he always would say, because I used to get in trouble in school sometimes I used to get my card pulled for you know, just talking in class, and he would tell me sometimes he'd be like one day you're going to get paid for talking, but today ain't that day, hush paid for talking, but today ain't that day, hush. And so you know I'll. That always, you know, is like a, you know, a precursor to my journey, because it sticks with me, because I knew that I majored in media studies and broadcasting school. Yeah, so, like I always knew at some degree that was going to be something for that I wanted to do. I want to talk on screen.

Speaker 2:

I had this vision in my mind. I knew I wanted to wear like a suit. I wanted to get to the office. I knew I wanted to show my powerpoint and stuff like that. That was like as far as I got in, like a vision for myself, but I didn't know that this part of the vision was going to exist. He was going to have me set up for that. Um, I did, uh, I did all through high school I was theater, so that was something that I tried out and it was end up being yeah, so I do know, do you still act.

Speaker 2:

In my videos.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but like would you act?

Speaker 2:

I want to. I want to at some point in my life. I do want to side quest and get into TV. I do want to get into TV and I'm I think I'm saying I don't necessarily know, but I think it would be. So I think I think the thing is I don't want to, I don't want to like half, but anything I do in my life. So I know how much time that takes. I would want to put in, and so I think that's the part that's a little scary. Yeah, how much time are you willing to put in to make something else happen that you want to happen in your life? Yeah, so yes, at some point I definitely would like to.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you're in a position to do almost anything you want, which is both amazing but also terrifying, I would assume, right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, because you have to.

Speaker 1:

You talk about being more honest with yourself. You have to come face to face with the humanity. I think, even for me in the you know the things I'm growing in doing, I'm realizing, oh, I have a little bit of power and I could go some directions that I probably shouldn't go with this, you know, and so it's causing me to have a lot of accountability with myself and with the people around me to kind of check me and pull me in, and I think that there's nobody who's better at that for me than my husband, right? So you, being married, I know you're shout out to Joy, I know you're your wife, I know she's a real. She talk, walk it like, she talk it Right. People may think she's quiet. She's going to tell you what she thinks about things.

Speaker 1:

You know, she's have to like, or do you allow her to kind of like, check some of your decisions or like be that second person? It's like I don't know we should do that. Or is she opinionated about what you do and your brand, deals and stuff, or not really?

Speaker 2:

as far as like with, I think, as far as like with brand deals. There's some usually we kind of just agree on. I think that there are, have been been, there have been, I think, a couple that come in where it was like I don't know about, I don't know about this, um and she. But I think when it comes to, I think when it comes to content, videos, opportunities, we constantly will talk about it and she'll, you know, she will be honest and say I don't know about this, I don't know how I feel about this from a perspective of your brand, what people may think, but also as your wife, and that's that's totally valid. You know, I need that because that, you know, joy has been there for me, like you know in the beginning, like she's. She's always believed in me and so when you have, when somebody, you have somebody like that has your best interest and they believe in you, it's like you know what, if you're telling me this, ain't it?

Speaker 1:

This ain't it.

Speaker 2:

This ain't it, you know.

Speaker 1:

Yep, and that's on camera and off you know. Correct, there are things that I will tell myself. I think we need to do this and I think I need to do that. And if he's like, no, we don't need to do that, I'm a little annoyed by it. I'd be like now he hasn't stood you wrong before, so he's not going to stand you wrong this time.

Speaker 2:

And even in a two-fold. I want to say this because there'll be things that I'm not sure about and she'll be like you should do this, you should do this, why not?

Speaker 1:

What are you afraid of?

Speaker 2:

Or like hey, I'm just telling you that you should, you should be doing this, and actually she just we just talked about something a couple weeks ago and she was like she was like why? Uh, because lately, like you know, I think part of being a creator is like doing things that are different, um, to stay relevant at some degree, and, um, I, we, I was talking to her about like different, um, about this series, that different styling, like a big creator, women's big creator, women's husbands Okay, and they like this is something that they say to me all the time and you had the same reaction, like you know.

Speaker 2:

So imagine me styling like Jackie Aina's husband or you know another like big person like her, and I was like, ah, you know another like big person like her, um, and I was like, ah, you know, I don't know. You know, I don't even for me. I'm like I don't know if, like, because you know, once you get into it, you unlock a new, uh, you unlock a new crowd. You're like do I want all that attention? Don't want that attention? And, um, what's the call it? She was like I think it's a great idea. Like, why are you not putting more thought into it? And I was like I don't know. She's like okay, well, what is it like? Why do you? What is he don't know about? And I think that probed me to question myself like okay, well, why don't you?

Speaker 1:

yeah, you know and and so literally had a conversation like that last night about an idea he had for me. You know what? I can't say it on camera yet, but what I share with you about what's about to?

Speaker 1:

happen in our future not a pregnancy, but some of the changes that are happening. And he was like I think this is what you should do with that. And I was just like I felt insecure. He was like, why, why do you feel insecure about that?

Speaker 1:

And what it boiled down to was I was worried about perception how people will perceive that content. And what he helped me understand because he knows me best is oh, you're worried about perception, but you're not thinking about all the benefits of people seeing the journey. And then also, by the way, people can, whatever you want the narrative to be, that's what will make it like what perception. We're gonna tell them what to think about you and that's what they're gonna think, just like they do now. And I was like you're right, you know. So it is really good, when you're overthinking something or under thinking something, under developing something, to have a spouse to kind of see you. And similarly, I've always felt extremely supported by my husband in ways that no person in my life before him ever showed up for me. So it made it really easy to choose him because I knew that I would not have to stop choosing myself to be with him.

Speaker 2:

Right, right.

Speaker 1:

I feel like, for people like us, for creative people, you got to be with someone who allows you to fully be you and teaches you when you're being selfish and calls you out when you're you, know when you need, but doesn't make you abandon yourself and your dreams to be with them. And I feel like, based on what you just said and based on some of the other stuff I've heard you say, and just knowing joy, I feel like that's what, what, what helped? You know? She was the one your parents have been married for 32 years 32 years 32 years next month.

Speaker 2:

I believe.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, married for 32 years, 32 years next month, I believe. Congratulations to them. What about that marriage right Helped you to become not just the husband and father you are, but the man, the man. The man that dresses the way you do, the man that shows up the way that you do. What in that marriage did you see that, did that for you?

Speaker 2:

I made a funny comment on a video I made yesterday, but it was basically like I think, like even from just a presentation background, like two things my mom used to always say, like even down to like you know, you remember when we used to wear hats to the back or hats to the side, like TI, and she used to, when I wore my hat like that in the car, she used to always be like, hey, like, just wear your hat straight when you're driving.

Speaker 2:

And I was like why she was like why she was like no, just wear your hat straight while you're driving, because you know, you never know who might pull you over and, like you, at least want to present your appear, you know, not like a problem, but it started that perception of like presentation and you know from there they just told me how much grooming was important. So if I came downstairs and my teeth was half brushed or you know, I still had sleep in my eyes or did you brush your tongue, good, you know, go back upstairs and that just instilled how much like self-presentation is just so important for your self-confidence but also to other people, how you present because you're saying who you are. And they were really in particular about that in what I saw in their marriage and I think also like working together as a team, that I saw teamwork a lot.

Speaker 2:

My dad, when my dad and my mom first met, they my mom was working at the mall and then my dad what my dad was doing, but my dad has been an entrepreneur for a long time. So for for when he, when they met, you know they were working together. They knew they were going to make make this thing work. Yeah, and as a team. You know he had. You know he was like, hey, look, well, we need to be able to make this thing work.

Speaker 2:

So you know what do you want. You know what do you want to do, and my mom wanted to. You know, go to school and do stuff. He's's like okay, well, cool, because I see we need, we're making a plan together. I will pay for you to go to school and, you know, get your degree, while I work hard over here because obviously at this point in time I'm born and so while they, while they made that plan together, you know my mom got her degree and then obviously she got a really good job that she's been at for a long time. She works for the government, and so then she has that stability, insurance and stuff like that, in case there are times, as being an entrepreneur, you're not able to like this teamwork and that's always been really important to me, you know, in just in my marriage, of course, but also just in life, like I don't know all the answers.

Speaker 2:

yeah, so you, sometimes I have to call a friend, call a brother, call you know a sister, to be like, hey, help me, walk me through this, help me to still because we all need help with each other I think, realizing that you don't need to do this life alone, this is just so important.

Speaker 1:

I love that. That's good. You talked about an interview that I saw about how you don't do a lot of podcasts, but you like to do podcasts because you feel like you want your audience to know who they're following. You want your audience to actually know you know the type of person that they're being influenced by. I thought that was really cool and it made me think of of this question what is something about you that your audience might be surprised to find out?

Speaker 2:

I don't know if they know this, maybe you can only know it in some way, but I'm actually extremely goofy and like I like to have a good time and I actually like legitimately love people. Yeah, like I love people. I'm very social, um, and I'm probably the definition of an extrovert, so even like bless you.

Speaker 2:

I wish people think I'm an extrovert yeah, yeah, yeah, sometimes it comes out in different ways for people, you know, like that. But but no, I mean I can talk, I can make conversation with the wall, you know. But I think that the's a path that you take and there's so much, there is so much um of a way that you can make this be seen on screen. But still enough, cause I've always been professional and that's just. That's just how I was raised, so I want to still put personality into it, but I also want to still give you value, because I'm so big on like, just value. And how can I help men, how can I help my audience, how can I reach them in the best way possible? And to help them to be positive, to help them to be confident and sometimes, you know I'm I'm, as social media is leaning more towards connection I'm like trying to figure out, okay, how can I connect with them more in this while still educating them at the same time and also entertaining them, giving them, you know, edutainment. Yeah, yep.

Speaker 1:

Yep, yep, yep. I think about your journey and all the different things and kind of weathering the tide through COVID, the big C as some people call it. You know, weathering that storm, weathering social unrest in our country, political stuff, but still making content about fashion and trying to navigate. Okay, how do I not promote consumerism but how do I also show people? You know, all these different things that I feel like you've navigated. I want you to speak to the influencer who is, you know, coming up trying to make content, navigating. All because now you're.

Speaker 1:

You know you may not agree with this, but now you're kind of above that. You know people kind of just it's true, accept it. It's kind of like you know people kind of just it's true, accept it. It's kind of like you know there's a few of y'all that just could do whatever we're like we love it.

Speaker 2:

Thanks, give us more.

Speaker 1:

And that's you work to get into that spot. So by no don't feel you know you work to get there, but when you were navigating that, where literally you could do something and it could get you canceled, it could. It could really mess you up. You know what I mean. If it was taken the wrong way. How did you navigate that terrain to still keep climbing and growing to get to where you are now?

Speaker 2:

I would say the thing that comes immediately to mind is positivity. Positivity just because I've always came from the perspective of if I can help you to have a better day, then it's better than because there's a lot going on in the world.

Speaker 1:

And it always will be.

Speaker 2:

And it always will be.

Speaker 2:

You know I've had conversations with my family about this and that I one thing I've always been a big about is protecting my brain and my mental health, cause sometimes you know how you can go. You can get bogged down by so much information during COVID, during different situations in the world, and it could jack up everything you got going on in your purpose. And it's not saying that I don't care, I do care, but I still do have my own purpose and mission. Yeah, and I mean, if I can just like there are comedy creators, there are different creators that do stuff you still got to go to work. You still got to work, walk out of your house and with your head high, you still got.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know, and I want, and I want you to feel like you want to come in, especially not only like just men, just men of all ages, but like young men too. Yeah, because I don't want to start. If I start talking about politics and stuff like that, yeah, not only will that some sometimes alienate me from, you know, being able to make my yeah, to reach certain people, but also you.

Speaker 2:

But also you got some fans who are guys who follow me, who are 13, 14, 15, and 16, where they're showing literally, hey dad, or hey mom, can you buy me this? Trey Bryant said this looks good, this is what I wear to school, and so now they know that and I almost want their parents to be okay with them following me too, of course, like for me, you know, and so many times it's happened in two different situations. Recently, I was, uh, it was in the mall. I was in the mall with joy and I went to the bathroom. Um, I went to the bathroom and so this kid walks past me in the bathroom, we're at the urinals, and he's like he's like you, you're that guy on tiktok that makes, uh, that makes fashion right. I'm like, yeah, and he's in the bathroom with the urinals and he's like. He's like can we take a picture? We're still at the bathroom, at the urinals, and I'm like bro, you're a kid saying this, and we're in the bathroom. I'm like yeah, let's walk out here. We walk out there. His dad is right there and his dad is like. He's like hey dad, this is a guy I follow on tiktok, blah, blah, blah and his.

Speaker 2:

And you know, I have to get into my father mode because I'm like I'm a father too. So I'm like, hey, how you doing, you know, uh, boom, boom, whatever, whatever. And I realized in those moments, this is how, that, this is how this impacts his day, this is how this impacts his dad now is like smiling because he's like okay, now I'm like I maybe want to know what you are posting because this is influencing my child. Yeah, you know, and for me, I really even, uh, you know, a kid I was at, I think, a couple years ago.

Speaker 2:

I was at a um, a men's retreat, uh, for path, and a kid comes up to me in the cafeteria and he's like, hey, I tell my dad about how to dress all the time because of your videos, randomly, we're all sitting down. This is like 8 o'clock in the morning and he's like I tell my dad how to dress for your videos all the time. This kid is like a teenager in high school, and so I realize, in each of those times I'm like this is a lot of weight to carry, which I'm totally fine with doing that, but based on how, I just don't want to. I want you, I want there to be entertainment, happiness and positivity when you come and see my content. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And that's definitely felt. I think your page feels fun, it feels informative. I think it's something that, as a woman, you can send to your significant other without them feeling like you're trying to come at them. It's also funny. So I think you're doing a really good job of spreading joy in your message and I think a cool thing about it for you you don't hide the fact that you're a Christian, but you also don't leap with it every second, and I think that that's really cool, especially for the type of content you do, because it allows you to show your lifestyle. Everyone knows you're married, they know you have children, but it's not in every single video. You're able to keep, I would assume, some level of privacy by making your content about what it's about by making your content about what it's about.

Speaker 1:

We're in a season and an era in terms of content creation where people are no longer being encouraged to niche down. They're like make your videos about whatever you want to make them about and see where the chips fall. I have my feelings about that. It's not good or bad, it just is.

Speaker 2:

What is it? I'm just curious. What is it so?

Speaker 1:

my feeling is I feel like niching down makes sense if what you're doing is a niche. So I'm a talker, my whole brand is me talking.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

That's not a niche, because I can talk about anything Right. But if I was doing fashion, I want to talk about fashion. You know what I mean. Like I think about people I follow, like Jhene Naylor or Jeronika Macea or you know you. When I come to your page, I really don't want to hear you giving me a scripture. I just don't. Now, when I go to Brenda Palmer's page, or Sarah you know Jake's Robert's page.

Speaker 1:

I would like to see that and I'm also okay if they show me a get ready with me. Yeah, okay, I'm okay with that. But I'm kind of coming to you for you know, I don't know if people come to my page specifically for scriptures. I think they come more for inspiration I talk about. I may talk about a scripture, I may talk about relationships, I may talk about whatever, but I don't think people come to my page. They don't really care about to get ready with me, even though if people see me, they know I I put it on. You know what I mean. But I just think that it, it, it depends on the creator and what you are known for, what you want to be known for. But with you having a niche, you know, and having to film and and and do things that speak directly to a certain topic, do you ever feel boxed in by that?

Speaker 2:

A little bit Sometimes. I think that, but I think it's uh, it's self-imposed sometimes because, like you said, um, so I will say that like a couple of things about what you said right right now. Right now you are, they are opening up for you to talk about different things. In my own personal humble opinion. Talk about different things around. What it is you that are more core to you, and the reason I say that right is like, for instance, I came across this girl's video yesterday and she was, she was doing all this and her videos are really good, but she was doing an analyzation about people's brand and personal brands, and I really loved when people talk about personal brands, about what stuff means in the media and stuff like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I want to know who you watch and who you listen to.

Speaker 2:

And so when I saw this, I was like, oh, this is dope. And then I went down several posts and I found other posts that were still like that one right. And those posts also did well. They got great engagement on them and they were interesting. If I follow her and she starts talking about something completely different, this is not the reason that I'm here, yeah, and which would end up me unfollowing her, which most people would do. Fashion is the thing that I've always talked about a lot. No matter what I do in 10 years, I always want to be known as the fashion guy. I did a TV show last year and when I was on TV show, I still told them. I was like, hey, look, I don't care what it is, I still always want to be known as a fashion guy and my reasoning for that is because that's a talent. That's a talent that Kevin Hart-.

Speaker 2:

Dressing well is a talent for sure, yeah, kevin Hart, will Smith, michael B Jordan I don't know who dresses them, but I know somebody does dress them. But the thing for me is I dress myself and I can dress other people too, so and I can teach other people what it means, why you have that on and why it looks good. Yeah, that's my thing, and so I don't ever want anybody to take that away and like the reason that broke me through to be able to do talk about other things. But I also like talking about the male lifestyle, men's lifestyle, and that's what allows me to talk about grooming, talk about fragrance, talk about and you know I've talked about talk about travel, talk about all these different things, because fashion is multidimensional, and so I think that you should talk about whatever it is that is your core.

Speaker 2:

Fashion is my core. Once you break through to a point where your core is not only the reason people follow you is because I know people follow me for fragrance then I think it's okay to start talking about other things, but don't veer too far off. Like you said, it's a really it's a really good example. It's like if I come here to get motivation from you, if I come here to get fashion tips from you. I'm not coming here to get a scripture. There's several. I come here to get fashion tips from you. I'm not coming here to get a scripture. There's several other accounts for that. How can I stand?

Speaker 1:

out. That's good, that's really really good. You talked about breaking through and I'm wondering, you know, as you were on your journey, on your climb, was there a specific moment where you thought oh, I'm about to, it's gone, it's gone, I'm about to go up, like, can you remember something specific that happened that gave you that feeling?

Speaker 2:

You know, I've always, I still operate from an underdog mentality, Like there's still yeah, there's still ground to cover.

Speaker 2:

It's just, it's just part of just like growing up and like prioritizing like sports first, and I think that once you chose to be like an art kid or do something different and you may not be as athletic or you maybe have hoop dreams and you don't live up to those dreams it's like dang well, I still need to be better in this, I still need to be. I'm not the coolest kid and I think that that's what still keeps me grounded. But also, at the same time, um makes me always feel like there's still much things to get better. To other people maybe they may feel like I broke through. I think that there have been some really cool things that have put me into position that I've been like I have to sit and be like wow.

Speaker 1:

Tell me one.

Speaker 2:

I think that one of the coolest ones, like two really cool things, and it happened really early on and I didn't even realize until I talk about them now. When I tell you, when I tell you them, you're probably gonna be like nigga, what like that happened, but like it just was so in 2022, um, when joy was pregnant with william, our oldest son, that summer was a crazy summer. The first thing that happened that summer is I did a deal with BET.

Speaker 1:

I remember that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, bet, they flew me up to New York and I did a. I did a. I did a kind of like a pod interview I forgot the young lady's name that that I did the interview with but they basically wanted to, wanted me to talk about giving tips to creators and was in 2022. I wasn't in nearly as, I think, large uh, in my following as I am now and it was just cool, like it was something that they put. I think it was for um, it was for juneteenth, it was a june juneteenth thing and I thought that was like so cool. You know, I met a whole bunch of people from bet, um, the production. I saw like what it like, how it is, it's set up, um, it was just. That was when I was like, wow, like I really could do this, like do this and do this on a different level than just like making videos. It's much, it's much bigger than that.

Speaker 2:

Shortly after that, I think a month or a couple of weeks later, I did a deal with, I think, deal with Walmart, and on the deal with walmart in 2022, that summer, I interview, interview they. I don't know why they asked me to interview him and as a part of the deal, but they wanted me to make content, interview deon sanders. So I was just like, okay, cool, like this, like this is crazy, of course, like for me, because I'm like you, I'm a talker and you know we rise to the occasion it's like what do I need to do? Okay, cool, but it was crazy that that happened. And that's when I started being like these are not just deals that some of my colleagues are just getting, this is a deal that was custom made for me, you know. And that was when I started being like wow, like I could maybe be something. Yep, you know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think it's. We all have those moments and we have more and more of them as time goes on. I feel like it's God's confirmation to tell us like, yeah, I'm really with you and you're really different. And not different as in better, just different as in mine Like there are opportunities that I get that people who've been doing things and this has happened to me on the music side of my career, because for me my hoop dreams were music industry dreams for me.

Speaker 1:

But even in that, god gave me a lot of success there and then, when I was ready to pivot and try something different, this had also been a dream of mine. It's been a dream of mine. It's been a dream of mine to be a talk show host. My whole life I was watching Ricky.

Speaker 2:

Lake and Jenny Jones and Maury and all the things.

Speaker 1:

You definitely can do it, love it, yeah. And then he started to give me very quick success here in certain ways and I had to realize, like man, this is. I think sometimes god knows that some of us need to be shown that we can do this quickly or else we'll move on. I don't know if you're like that, like me, I, I need to be shown quickly that something, because other than that, I feel like I'm wasting my time, yeah, like I'm like okay, well, god, well, what else do you have for me? Because this, this is I'm dragging, this is not working, you know, now, that is a patience thing I need to work on.

Speaker 2:

But no, it's human. It's human, it makes sense.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and so I feel like he shows people sometime relatively early on that, hey, this is working and you should keep going work harder. You know what it's like.

Speaker 2:

It's like the preview showing you that the movie's going to be good, like I promise. If you just come to the movie, it's good. This is the previews. Now, this is the previews I'm showing you Now. After that I'm going to snatch it back and now we're not going to come out to 2026, 2027, 2028. But you got to be ready. When the movie drops, it's coming out in two years.

Speaker 1:

Let me ask you this, and I think this is super important. I already know the answer. But people think that going viral is easy. People think that becoming a brand is luck. People think that these things only happen for certain people. But you and I both know it is hard work.

Speaker 1:

My father used to say when I was growing up no one who got to the top of the mountain got there without climbing. So whether you think they deserve to be there or not, whether you think it's some rapper who can't you know this is when I was in the music industry. They can't even rap as good as me, and they're up there and everyone knows them. They didn't just get dropped there. And guess what? If they did just get dropped there, they're not going to last because they won't be able to withstand the elements. So you, as someone who, literally, we have watched climb to the proverbial top of social media most people's goal is to have a million followers or to go viral several times. You've done that twice over. You've gone viral several times. What are some of the lessons that you learned? Some of the climbing right, some of the bruises, some of the hardships that you would tell someone who wants to be on this journey, to be prepared for.

Speaker 2:

That's good. I actually have several, I would say. I'm going to try to break them up into different categories, right? So first I'll start with the mental behind going viral. Going viral, it's dope, like it does feel good, but you have to think about it like this, right? The pros to going viral is that it's like a dopamine hit. You feel good, you're popping, you open the app to you know whether it's TikTok, instagram or whatever and you see a hundred new followers, a hundred new likes, a hundred comments, and it's just like it's a dopamine hit and it's in its form of a drug. It feels really good because people are validating you, because we're human at the end of the day, and you want to be seen and they see you and they see you they're commenting, they're saying different stuff.

Speaker 2:

You see your following increasing. So and then you're also thinking you feel validated because this piece of content that came from your mind, that you created, is being validated by social media, the platform itself. This is good, just like God said, this is good, instagram saying this is good content. You know, and so it's this overwhelming, really good experience. And you feel that, right On the flip side from the mental, you are getting all this right from this post, or it could be from three of your most recent posts. But realizing that if once you do post something new and it doesn't hit that same way, you don't feel hot anymore, it affects your confidence a little bit. You don't want to. You're like, oh, you start overthinking what you're doing. You don't feel as successful, you don't feel you know, it's a little bit of depression that comes from it, a little bit too sometimes, because you're like, how do you handle these feelings? On the other part, what I tell a lot of people is you have to be, if you want to go viral, you have to be ready for what's going to come, because you have to understand right when you are posting something, only a core few people are really seeing it, especially if you get your regular numbers or you're reaching new audits every time right when it comes to short form content, when you go viral, it is showing it to a plethora of new people who know nothing about you, know nothing about you and what you say in that piece of content they may be. The reason that you're going viral is because they've never seen anything like this before and they don't know how to react to what it is. So they're going to find everything in the world If it triggers them. If I'm telling someone, stop dressing like a bum, okay, and that was my first hook of my video All they're thinking about is you told me I look like a bum. Two weeks ago, this girl who broke up with me told me I'm a bum. Now I'm going to find something in your video, whether it's a speck on your face, a pimple, the way your shoulders look to say no, I'm not the bum, you're the bum, something's wrong with you and or anything, because they're trying to find something out of how they're feeling to put you down and you got to be ready mentally for whatever they're finna say and understand that it's just them coming with something they're trying to say. That is the mental, I think, after that, right from being just a creator, you should not just want to go viral.

Speaker 2:

One of the things I've gone viral and I also have just gotten videos that have done well, yeah, consistently over time but the thing is about going viral is, if you go viral so many times, you don't know who your audience is anymore. You don't know how to serve them. You don't know what they're looking for. Even if, if I do do fashion, it could get to a certain point where I don't know what pieces of fashion they're really looking for that they really want to see, because the audience is so mixed up, it's so scattered, it's so scattered. And the thing is we talked about this earlier we're getting to a point where it's the time especially, I would say, where I'm at, it's time to cultivate the audience, but I can't cultivate anyone I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I don't know what they're really looking for, and that's why, if you think of yourself like a business, a business says, oh, this is my mission statement. We help these type of people. I want to reach this type of person. This is my avatar. I don't know who. My avatar is based on my videos being so broad and reaching different people, which I love that, but over a certain time, I don't know what my idea is. Is this going to hit this person? Is this going to hit this person? And it can be a little bit daunting and you have to figure out. Are you okay with that? Are you okay with it sometimes affecting your engagement rate and your engagement rate going down? Not that your content is bad, but just that your audience may not feel it and the algorithm is going to shift you to a different person, and so you just have to. I would honestly venture to say that don't put too much stock into going viral. Put stock into your videos doing well.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, what does doing well look like to you?

Speaker 2:

I would say it's an outlier. So on YouTube, right, if you have like vid IQ or something like that, it'll show you a Google Chrome extension. It'll show you like what as far as like long form, it'll show you what videos for people are outliers. Outliers could be if you have 50,000 followers and your uh and your video gets a hundred thousand views. That's an outlier video. So if you focus on getting outlier videos that show you, okay, I need to make more of this. And then once you make more of this and it keeps showing you, okay, these keep doing well, then that means I need to continue to. I need to continue to do videos like this.

Speaker 1:

That's good. How much do you think about the algorithm?

Speaker 2:

A lot every day. Every day, I think about the algorithm a lot every day, every day I think about. Every day. I think about like, uh, I rack my brain because now on edits, you know I'm sure you're familiar with edits. You can see your watch time on Instagram. I look at the stats all the time, the shares, I look at interviews with you know, the CEO, uh, the president of Instagram, about what he said.

Speaker 2:

But obviously this is my, this is my business, it's my life. So I like, I have to, but like I just what I've committed to and like I was kind of telling you about this earlier off camera was for a while. I was like, okay, I need to build something. I seem to be able to build another business something, and I sold those style guys for a while last year and I kind of grabbed my brain on what else? What was the next thing I wanted to do? And I got to a point where I'm like I really just want to focus on how can I make the best videos possible, because videos is what got me here, Focus on what's got you here.

Speaker 2:

Who's trying to do something different? Or they've gotten to a point where they've, I think, how a lot. I got a partner that says this they've reached their stratosphere, they're gone, they're through the roof. It's from their videos. You talked about Tabitha Brown earlier. It's her videos. Jackie Aina KevOnStage it's their videos.

Speaker 2:

When you're a creator, you cannot stop making the videos. Mr Beast is the most highest paid creator and probably in the world and has the most views and following videos in the world. He doubles downs on his videos, even if he has other projects. The videos can't stop. So if I can figure out how can I make the best videos for me? That's what I'm focused on right now and I'll be able to create.

Speaker 2:

As I'm still creating what that brand of videos is and still shaping it and forming it, because I kind of still have my style, but shaping it, forming it and how it looks. Then as I grow I'll be like, hey, all right, this is the Trey Bryan uh DNA, this is how we edit it, this is how we get it to look, this is what my audience is going to look for me on, and then, as we grow from there, then I can maybe focus on TV or focus on uh acting or something like that, because I know I gotta show up and still film yeah, you just answered a question for me that I didn't even ask you um.

Speaker 2:

I was thinking about or focus on acting, or something like that, because I know I got to show up and still film.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you just answered a question for me that I didn't even ask you I was thinking about. Yeah, because for me I'm you know, my biggest content is talking head. Right, I sit in front of that art that you can see right there. It's not on camera so y'all can't see it, but I sit in front of that and I talk.

Speaker 1:

I'll sit in my car and I talk. If I'm early somewhere or waiting for someone, I'll pull up my camera in my car and share my thoughts and feelings. I have a note this is free game for some of y'all. Everyone should be doing this if you're a creator. But when ideas pop in my head, I write them in my notes app and, as I do them, I check them off, and so I have my notes app and I say, okay, what videos haven't I made? What topics haven't I made, whether it be something I'm studying out spiritually or just something somebody in my life did. That I was like that was dumb and I have thoughts about it you know.

Speaker 1:

so, yes, I do use y'all for content.

Speaker 1:

I'm like, if this, if one person thinks that this okay, other people might and it's not, so we should talk about it.

Speaker 1:

Um, and then I use my myself I use myself more than I use anybody else my own life lessons.

Speaker 1:

But I'm realizing that I need to double down on those talking head videos, because that's what people want to see. Like, when I be trying to do vlogs and all sorts of stuff, it falls a little flat, and I think one of the reasons it falls flat is not because it's not good. Right, we're going to make sure the editing is good and all that you will, but I'm not as passionate. But when, like, I made a video the other day where I was talking about um as single women single Christian women, because that's who I talk to mostly, but single women period that when you're praying about all these deep spiritual things for a husband, make sure you pray about some of the things too, and it's doing better than my videos have done in a while I've reached and I'm sure you've been here before you can kind of go viral and do really, really well, and then your videos kind of plateau a little bit for a while, and then so, and I'm cool with that, I'm just going to keep making the videos right.

Speaker 1:

So anyway, the video is doing kind of well and last night my husband was like that video is doing pretty well. What do you think the difference is?

Speaker 1:

and I said I'm passionate about what I'm talking about people can tell, they can feel it, people can tell when this is just a lesson that you've learned and you think it's good to share and when you're passionate about. I'm passionate about praying for the things that I wanted, because I prayed for. I prayed very. I prayed so specifically about my husband that sometime I just have to laugh. I prayed for god to give me a man from Brooklyn while I was in the dead of Atlanta in the middle of a pandemic. He's from Brooklyn. You know, when I went and looking for rings, I was like I really like this ring, but I really would like it to be a carrot and a half bigger. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1:

The one he ended up getting me was a carrot and a half bigger. That's fine. I mean very specific things, very, very, very specific things I've prayed about with my spouse that God answered. So I like to tell single women, you know, don't just be up here praying oh lord, give me a man that loves you and give me a man. No pray for what you want, because them shallow things become very deep when you're not getting them in a marriage right. And I think that that that did well, because it was something I'm passionate about. So hearing you say, say you know, and duh right, I see this every day. People like Kev on stage, who I admire greatly, tabitha Brown, who I admire greatly, people like you, people like Mr Beast If y'all, jackie Aina, you know, still making videos on TikTok every day, why do I think I could post once a week Like you know what I mean. So you got me together, it's all right.

Speaker 2:

You don't have to say no more, no, but you know, in the same right you did the same thing with me. Be more specific with your prayers. You know it's actually crazy. While you were talking, I was just like dang, like you're right, like why am I when I sit up here, you know for me, like you know, obviously, you know you say your prayers for your family, you know, and stuff like that you want to increase in your life.

Speaker 2:

But, even in your business, right? It's crazy because you were just saying about, like you specifically pray for all those things with your husband and I don't think I'm being specific enough in my prayers with my career, you know, I say that I want to reach men, I want to stay creative. I say very surface level things in my prayers about my, but it's like, if you really are passionate about something, what is it Like? God, give me a business idea that's going to revolutionize and change what I'm trying to do. God, I want to get into TV. Give me a TV job where I have a card in my hand, you know, and I'm able to wear suits, you know. And it's like what do you want? God wants to know. What you you know I got from you is what do you want your life to look like and be specific about it so that you just inspired me. I'm just like man. I need to be more specific.

Speaker 1:

I have prayed very specifically about my life, my career, and God is constantly answering those prayers. And something that you said to me in 2019, we were at a Bible discussion. Shout out to our boy, Trav. We were at Trav's house.

Speaker 1:

And I had said something and afterward you were like, hey, do you have TikTok? And I was like, yeah, I have TikTok. You were like you need to start talking on TikTok and I really didn't take it that seriously. But when I tell you, when God has something for you to do, it'll haunt you, it'll. You know, don't get too crazy about the word haunt. You know, lord, these people Trey, listen, these people will be on my neck about every little thing that's demonic. I'm like listen, relax, okay, it will stay with you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, it'll stay with you.

Speaker 1:

It'll stay with you and I would hear your words. I would hear your words ring in my head. You know you need to do it on TikTok. You need to be on Instagram Lish. You need to be telling people your story. You need to be telling people you're so, you need to, and, um, every time we were running to each other here and there I'd be like, bro, I, I remember what you said because I wanted you to know. I heard you because I'm a person who gives a lot of advice. Yeah, and I'm not this way at all anymore. I've actually changed a whole lot. When someone I respect tells me to do something, I usually do it within 48 hours. If someone I respect says you should read this book, you should listen to this podcast, you should. But I learned that from, I got that from not listening to you, from not taking your advice.

Speaker 1:

I realized, oh, when someone who is successful at something, someone who is even passionate because you weren't anywhere near where you are now but, when someone suggests something and they're already doing it, you need to at least take their advice, and so you, saying that to me really did plant a seed. I want to give you your flowers. I've told you this in private, I've told your wife this but it really did plant a seed for me to say, no, this is something that you could be good at, and it is something that, eventually, you could potentially do full time, and so it's really an honor for me to have you on the couch, because a large part of the reason why this is even happening, honestly, is because you were like you should do this, and it took me a while, it took me a little minute to get consistent, but I got consistent, and so I just want to thank you for pouring into me that day in that small way and telling me the vision that you saw for me.

Speaker 2:

No, I appreciate that and I think that also, you know, give yourself grace. You know, because even though you did say that it's, there's a lot always going on and sometimes you you may not see it for yourself and you may not be ready to see it for yourself. Do Lish, you can tell a whole bunch of people all the time. I want you to pull out your phone, I want you to make videos about this specific thing. That's not easy to do, it's just not, and I just knew you had the talent when we were in those studies and we would all be hanging out and even at church.

Speaker 2:

I'm like yo when she talks, people listen. Not everybody has the gift to talk and people like stop and listen. And the way to form words, the way that you put a message, you make it almost into imagery. You inspire people. I think that what I'm saying, when I said that to you back then, it was just like yo, I'm on here making videos. You should be too. I mean, like you can do it, I'm doing it and I feel like you talk better than me.

Speaker 2:

So it's like come on, you know, but I mean, at the end of the day, no, I totally get it and I appreciate it yeah.

Speaker 1:

I appreciate you being here. For sure, there's so many other things that I wanted to ask you, but, in the interest of time, two things. One you know you have your specific content about fashion, but you alluded to listening to and following influencers who talk about business and kind of helping you build the brand. If there are people out here who are listening which there are, who need to be inspired to become an influencer but get their business right, who are some of the people that you listen to? And I'll name some of mine too, but are there any YouTubers you watch? Any people that you follow on Instagram who you want to encourage people to listen to?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think a big one that Joy actually put me on that I follow a lot now is diary of a ceo. Um, he talks about so many different things business, future, um, things that you should be concerned about um, and just how, like how to build you know business in general. So I really really like his podcast and just him in general. Um, brian johnson. Brian johnson talks about a lot about like health and sleep and how um, just because in last few years I've really diving into like running and fitness and I'm not I mean it was more just like lifting, but now it's more so like fitness, lifestyle and recovery and I'm just seeing like how, like how we can really, because the thing is people, this I was big on this whole thing where people were like you gotta work, you that whole alpha male movement, like you gotta work, you gotta grind, go before in the morning. But it's really not about that, especially when you become a grown man with responsibilities in the family, and it's about working smarter, not harder. And I think about like you do need to think about your immortality, your health, um, you know, uh, just stuff like that. So I follow him, I follow some. I don't. I can't. Of course, I follow Kev. Kev gives incredible advice.

Speaker 2:

I've liked how he's, aside from being funny, he's even just giving inspirational content now that he makes, and I think that that's a way that like kind of like what you said earlier earlier, like he's a person that we all respect, yeah, and he's doing it every day. So it's like you don't have to be funny, you can just be inspirational sometimes too. Um and real, yeah, real, and so I really like uh, I really like you know him when he, especially when he makes those videos, um, I would say I. There's a couple business channels I go by, but it's more so like I like a lot of stuff about branding. I follow like a couple like Asian guys that like talk about like branding, like the difference between, like premium this video I saw the difference between premium and luxury.

Speaker 2:

Apple is premium and then Rolex is luxury, certain hotels are premium and this is luxury. And how you build, how you build your brand to look, I've followed different people who talk about and these I can't think of the accounts because a lot of times I just save these videos but like I'm really into like shaping your narrative and your brand and that like you, uh, like you said this earlier, you choose to show the narrative of what, of who you are and what you want that to be. And I really, really think that Will Smith is one of the most underrated inspirational people on this earth, because have you ever read his book?

Speaker 1:

Yes, I did, him and Jada's.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I've been meaning to read Jada's but like when he talked about how, like how he was, when you control things, how you're building your brand and how he wanted to be like Tom Cruise and he said Tom Cruise is doing what? So this? Even from picking the movies that he wanted to pick because he wanted to control.

Speaker 1:

And when they came out, and when they came out, make sure they bought us the weekends.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he controlled the narrative about how he was building his brand, yeah, and I think that that is that's really big Like you, you as a person, you control your narrative.

Speaker 2:

You control how people are going to look and perceive you and you know, I've always kept that in mind and it's like, honestly, I do, I do enjoy wearing suits, but honestly, that's why I like. But I like wearing stuff like this like very casual. But the reason I wear it is because I want you to perceive me as like this, like a businessman. Yeah, so because that's how I'm. It's a part of the brand. Yeah, sneakers are a part of your brand, so it's like they'll always remember that.

Speaker 1:

You know, liv, sneakers are a part of her brand Shout out to our girl Liv just living Yep yeah.

Speaker 2:

So it makes sense and it's a part. It's really it's association.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love that. That's really good. I'll give a few really quick. Jade Beastman I like a lot on YouTube. Tori Roberts with his podcast, the Called Podcast it's a podcast for entrepreneurs fire, and this guy named Ali Abdaal who I really like.

Speaker 2:

Yup, I know about him.

Speaker 1:

He's so different than anybody else that I've watched. So the point where I'm like why do I like him so much? But it just speaks to me. He's about productivity, but not in a weird way. You know what I mean. Not like in a work work 4 am kind of thing but just about getting out of yourself. Obviously, we got some OGs people that you named, other people but I think it's really cool to have so much content. So I'll say this really quickly from our content creators. Everything you need to know is online. You've probably already watched it, binged it, taking notes, taking seminars, taking classes Just start, just start, start and be consistent.

Speaker 1:

Start and be consistent. Start with what you have, be consistent and be consistent. Start with what you have, be consistent and it'll take you a long way. We ask a final question here at the podcast, and that question is in the grand scheme of things, what do you want your legacy to be?

Speaker 2:

in the grand scheme of things, I would like my legacy to be. I would like it to be someone who makes a difference and makes the world better when it comes to men and how men, um, how men love, how men present themselves and brotherhood, because I think that we all really stick together and we feel confident with how we present ourselves to each other. You know, I think that truly, I think that we can help the world be a better place as leaders, because I think, as you lead, you know you have to, you have to kind of have a certain, you have to have community, you have to have provision, you have to have the sensibility and emotional intelligence to understand other people, intelligence to understand other people. And I think that if we can create confident men that are emotionally intelligent in the world, that are, you know, also like intelligent and smart, I think that we can. We can help the world be a better place.

Speaker 1:

I love that. Well, you're well on your way and congratulations on all the success. I'm looking forward to all that God is going to continue to do in your life. Is there anything you want your audience to know, anything they should be looking out for and tell anyone who might be hiding under a rock somewhere where to follow you. Well, that's hilarious.

Speaker 2:

Everybody can follow me at Trey Bryant Style on any platform and I just want you to always know just be the best version of yourself. Be 1% better every day. And before you walk out the door and you're thinking about just putting on a hoodie and some sweats, just put on some trousers instead and a nice polo, because it'll make you feel more confident and feel some fragrance too.

Speaker 1:

I love it. I love it. Ladies and gentlemen, this has been Trey Bryant here at the I'll Just Let Myself In podcast with your girl. Lish Speaks Again, this is the podcast where we don't wait for an imaginary permission slip or some seat at an imaginary table. We walk through our god-given doors and if this is your first time here, I know that it won't be your last. Make sure that you share this with a friend. Tell them what we got going over here. If you are a frequent flyer, go ahead and subscribe. We would love to have you here permanently. Give us a review, write a comment. Let people who may be looking at this for the first time know how much it is helping you and changing your life. If you've listened on Holy Culture Radio Sirius XM, Channel 140, Monday nights, Eastern Standard Time, we thank you for listening there. If you've watched on Holy Culture's YouTube, we thank you for watching there. If you are on my YouTube, Lish Speaks we thank you for watching here and we'll see you again next week for another one Peace.